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mudflow98
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Post by mudflow98 on Mar 7, 2004 19:11:18 GMT -5
NO!! NEVER CLOSE TUG-ANI!!
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imbrick
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seize the day!!!
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Post by imbrick on Mar 7, 2004 20:24:49 GMT -5
about condemning tug-ani!!!
in ani ra na ka simple, sige ra na sila ug sulti about press freedom, pero question nako para nila tanan kay was there ever a time nga gidiktaran or g-stop sila from expressing their views? if you dont know the answer then try to get a tug-ani paper, from any time of the year and check if they cannot or were not able to print something that they want to... i believe it is not much about the condemnation of tug-ani as a paper but what is written on it... the clamor for freedom of expression is best seen in a UP school paper and tug-ani is and has been doing it... now the thing is FREEDOM COMES WITH RESPONSIBILITY, by it, i am referring to the fact that as a school paper it should be REPRESENTING the school, its students, the majority of it and what is beneficial to them and not only a handful. i would challenge anybody to give me proofs that it is indeed representing the students 101%.
the condemnation on the act of tug-ani printing a full page on anak ng bayan as a youth partylist is but a misuse of funds, they are saying that it is for the education of the students for the upcoming elections, now if what they really (or the writer) had in mind was to educate the students on the youth party list then how come it was just focused on ONE party list when there are actually other party lists, why did they not include the others, then?
and before you go haywire on what i just said can i please ask you to get a copy of that november issue read through it and check if it was indeed for education purposes or not.
decide on it... ?!
be the critical minded UPian that you should be...
be aware!
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Silverhand
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Post by Silverhand on Mar 7, 2004 21:05:37 GMT -5
with regards to the TUG-ANI, please bear in mind that it is "ScHoole Paper" designed to educate the students...and also bear in mind that the people that are behind TUG-ANI are also students.....
TUG-ANI may have erred in their NOV issue by featuring ANAKBAYAN whatever, so????why pounce so hard on the people behind the paper????if they commited an error to your belief then let them correct it or tell them in a civilized manner mto correct it....
And for TUG-ANI the paper is for the students and for every story there are two sides...so please present both sides always....word of caution: if you don't have the two sides, don't run the story..it is that simple...or if you run the first side in one issue make sure you run the next in another
And for those people think they are aggravated because of TUG-ANI....present your story to the paper and wait for your side to be printed, and do not ever, lambast the paper for not presenting your side..for i believe that the paper tries to present both sides possible, unfornately some sides don't cooperate
sad but true, sad but true
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shaula
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Post by shaula on Mar 8, 2004 9:57:14 GMT -5
why only anak bayan? as far as i kno, at the time the facts were gathered and the article was written, anak bayan was the only party list appoved by COMELEC...so kung wala nagsinabat dayon ang students, then maybe more "features" on other party lists would have been published in the succeeding issues...  i quoted "feature" because indeed the article on anak bayan was among tug-ani's feature articles, not a NEWS article...a feature article may or may not be biased...and most of the time, it is biased, that is what we should put into our minds...as much as journalists strive to be objective, they are but humans who are subject to emotions...OBJECTIVITY is an ideal, only in books and minds of the people and it will remain as such forever...It never was and will be a reality...  if you want to understand better, please read any book on the basics of journalism...  i believe, tug-ani indeed committed a mistake, not necessarily violated the law...what they did was UNETHICAL, journalism-wise, not ILLEGAL...  |
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Silverhand
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Post by Silverhand on Mar 9, 2004 11:56:04 GMT -5
sad, but true!!!!
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shaula
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Post by shaula on Mar 10, 2004 7:29:38 GMT -5
yes, it is absolutely true... and it is not enough reason to condemn tug-ani...  thank you very much... ;D |
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mAd gUrL
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Post by mAd gUrL on Mar 11, 2004 21:14:06 GMT -5
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Post by Colonel Sanders on Mar 15, 2004 4:41:55 GMT -5
yeah! sad but true!!!!
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fetus
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Post by fetus on Mar 15, 2004 8:07:36 GMT -5
hala asa raman ang akong gipost?
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carla
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Post by carla on Mar 18, 2004 7:01:33 GMT -5
during my time (i was the feature editor of tug-ani), we also had a case but it was different in a sense that it involved teachers and not a political stance, nor voter education. as editors, our group managed our money well, and we even facilitated moving to the new office (this time without urine leaking from the upper floor :  and bought all the tables, chairs, cabinets, etc. that tug-ani has today. when i was still a writer, we had to make do with one old, rickety table and a couple of equally old armchairs...sheez.. we (willly rodolfo, ed-in-chief * rosario tumulak, associate ed * fatima dela cerna, manging ed * gay abenir, news ed * lonz eugenio, layout ed) strived to be as fair as we could. in fact, when rosario (a.k.a sayo) ran for a position in the student council, she quit from tug-ani out of delicadeza. not a single one of us took any party's stand during the elections, although some delusional farts insisted we did. i was also somewhat active and left-leaning, but not entirely -- but i never suggested or would condone placing any form of political ad on the paper unless we posted ads of all parties for fairness' sake. in this case, i think posting a partylist ad and using the excuse of voter education is simply stupid. the whole justification they used is flimsy and stands on shaky ground. if the paper really wants to "educate the voters", their should be more than one partylist featured and it should not have been a political ad (if that's what it was, haven't seen it), but a rundown on the partylist's platform (more than 1 partylist, i STRESS). >> on a more scheming note: it's as simple as that. if you (tug-ani) really want to get the "message" across, you should've tried a different attack. it's all about strategy. see, what you did makes a lot of room for error and questioning, next time be careful ;D >> to all tug-ani haters, i'm not condonig this, but hey, gimme a f**kin break dude. my graduation got delayed because of tug-ani, i'm out of this school and my opinions are, well, just opinions. and besides, tug-ani is still VERY close to my heart ;D |
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carla
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Post by carla on Mar 18, 2004 7:03:04 GMT -5
P.S. kami ang ga-una2x anang column nga Tugalhab *heehee*
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fetus
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Post by fetus on Mar 19, 2004 7:34:29 GMT -5
yeah, carla is right.
i guess another bad thing is that both camps, or rather TUG-ANI together with the NKE made the issue big. it shouldn't be that way.
i mean staging a rally denouncing the condemnation of the student council? saying Press Freedom is violated? or whatever allegations they say?
if they say press freedom is freedom from condemnation and critiques, they are right. but it isn't so. the student council and tug-ani, as articulated in our student's handbook, are both equal institutions to serve as a voice of the students. that could mean that the student council could serve as a checking institution of tug-ani, and vice-versa. if they push through with the idea that they are an independent and have their own constitution to be held liable to, the question of "who will be the one to check and balance tug-ani?" will arise.
by the way, what does the student council mean by its condemnation? fair and simple, from what i understand from councilor Magalong, it means that they judge them as guilty of misuse of funds, as it becomes an implication of posting a "political ad". well a debate of whether its a political ad or not is imminent here, but suffice to say that it is so as it is nearing election, and that it appears to be such. (huh? ;D) though they have the discretion to spend the tug-ani's fund, i am wondering why they are printing that page (a full blown page at that) which could be questionable and outright (i don't know... its just that i could not relate any reason why they printed it. voter's education? that's answered by carla, if you follow her logic).
and the consequence of the condemnation? well, the student council, as i have learned, asks the tug-ani to ask apology from the students.
i doubt if the action of the student council COULD inhibit the function of tug-ani as a voice from the students.
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SoulEdge
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Post by SoulEdge on Mar 20, 2004 0:10:04 GMT -5
i condemn only the article, not the paper.
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Silverhand
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Post by Silverhand on Mar 20, 2004 11:45:20 GMT -5
which is the right thing to do.....TUG-ANI has been there before us and will be there after us.......
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if you want to understand better, please read any book on the basics of journalism... 
and bought all the tables, chairs, cabinets, etc. that tug-ani has today. when i was still a writer, we had to make do with one old, rickety table and a couple of equally old armchairs...sheez..